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Interview Archive
Catching
Them Young
Benjamin Spademan in conversation with Sheila Markham Whos that little brat, and whats he doing here? The English often have a curious attitude to talent. Benjamin Spademan was collecting books before most children learn to read. Hes been dealing for the last four years and hasnt yet left school. Perhaps the combination is bound to arouse suspicion and even an element of hostility. But some of the worst behaviour has come from dealers in childrens books just the kind of puzzle Michael Hollander solves so well, Forget it. They all hate kids. Benjamin bought his first books from the Beacon Hill Bookshop near his grandparents in Surrey, and Any Amount of Books in Olympia. He liked to collect particular authors, starting with Rider Haggard in first edition. By the time I was fourteen, I wanted to buy more expensive illustrated books. So I sold some of my collection to raise the money and found that I really enjoyed dealing. At first I was only doing it to advance my collection. I made a bit of money from selling cricket books to someone in Portobello Road, and I also did rather well out of a bookshop in Notting Hill Gate. Nowadays I dont collect anymore. Theres always a conflict with dealing. But Im sure Ill want to start again when Im really established. In the meantime, Benjamin has found a most congenial patron in Bernard Shapero, for whom he works on an informal basis. I suppose I do model myself to a certain extent on Bernard. He started dealing very young and went through all this brat business. Now hes got a very impressive set-up, and I admire the way he deals. When I think how I first met him, I dont know where I got the nerve from. I just walked in and offered him some books. He was very friendly and seemed rather amused. Perhaps he identified with what I was trying to do.Anyway he helped me along from there. Ive been to the States with him several times, and hes introduced me to lots of important dealers. In London, I have a small circle of booksellers I like to visit every week - Simon Finch, and Sam Fogg - although I cant quite buy a mediaeval manuscript yet, theres always something to learn. I also like going to Robert Frew who gives me good advice like "Dont be a snob", and the literature department at Maggs where theres always something to admire. When I think about it, all these dealers are good fun and fairly young. Its easier for me to make contact with them. Age does seem to make a big difference. Benjamins school is ideally located for these extra-curricular activities. The Lycée Français is also very convenient for Christies South Kensington, where Benjamin likes to indulge his love of auctions. Theyre just very exciting, and I always have the feeling I may pick up a real bargain. I study the catalogue before the sale, but occasionally I pay too much when theres something I simply must have. I used to go to Portobello Market regularly, always thinking I might find something cheap. Actually, I never did - probably because I couldnt be both-ered to go every single week at seven in the morning. But I still love the atmo-sphere. Its full of life. I cant say the same for most book fairs. All the funs gone out of them before the doors open. Im sure everythings been picked over during the setting-up. If I dont buy a book in the first ten minutes, it makes me very lazy and I end up doing nothing much. So many fairs are hot, stuffy and uninspiring. Although I think the PBFA is a great organisation, I dont get on too well with some of its members. Theyre the worst for saying things like "Dont touch the books. Youre too young". I try to make them see that I do know something, without showing off. But some exhibitors just dont want to take me seriously. Time will tell, and Benjamin has rather a lot of it in hand. The next ten years look busy university first, and then back to bookselling with a vengeance. Id like to have an impressive shop, like Bernards. Actually, Id really like two shops one in London and one in Paris. Im half French, I go to a French school, and Id definitely like to expand my business to the French market. Its a very different scene and I could easily buy stock in Paris that sells better in London, and vice versa. If I dont quite make a shop in Paris, I hope to set up some link with Europe. There are far more book collectors in France, Germany and Italy in particu-lar. Books are still a minority interest in this country. Ive never really considered the American market. Although I love going there, I cant imagine living anywhere in the States, except possibly in New York. Im also aiming to join the ABA, for the sense of achievement more than anything else. Most of the members carry very good stock, and it would be nice to be part of the international circuit. Having said that, it does tend to stand on the fact that it is the ABA, and doesnt project itself nearly so well as the PBFA, which, as you know, I dont like! But Im sure its a good way of making money for a lot of booksellers. But Benjamin still has to get his A-levels out of the way. Earlier this term, he invented a bout of flu to hop over for a sale in New York. His parents would prefer school work to come first and generally it does. When Im at school, I revert to being a normal school boy. Ive already got an A for my French A-level, but I failed my interview for Cambridge. My teachers report probably said something unhelpful like "Could do better if he concentrated"! Im not terribly good at taking criticism. Perhaps its because Im an only child and I dont much like being teased. People like to wind me up, but Im getting better at handling it. I dont go off in a sulk anymore when people say "Hes only a kid". But it does upset me when Bernard occasionally says I cant work at anything for more than thirty seconds. Anyway, its not true and dont even mention my teacher! Of course, there will be other problems. Shortage of money, I expect. I dont have a rich grandmother, in case anybodys wondering. But Im optimistic about the next ten years. Theres still a lot to learn, but I love books and I reckon I could open a shop tomorrow. Interviewed for The Bookdealer in February 1993 |